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Okay, okay.  Due to popular request I will post some of Wendelle Stevens book
UFO ... Contact From the Pleiades: Supplementry Investigation Report. Published
in 1989. I would like to indicate that this book is privately published and not
in large quantities.  As Wendelle once told me he publishes mainly for his
friends. Since he publishes it himself the cost of the book is a little more
than it could be.  But I consider the information priceless.  Wendelle has done
us all a great service by notating and editing Meiers contact notes.  Wendelle
combines his 30 plus years of experience into the annotations which, I consider,
makes his book twice as valuable. I had the opportunity of seeing the English
version of Meiers German contact notes offered by Meiers community and it was
the most difficult reading I ever attempted.  In fact I gave up on trying to
read them, except for a few juicy parts that Wendelle decided not to publish.  I
chose this part of the book so people could get some background on Meier, see
how Wendelle writes and background on the investigation. I will post a few
conservations between Meier and Semjase in the future. Enjoy! Don Showen BTW if
you enjoy this how about sending Wendelle a Thank you note for both writing it
and giving me permission to post. I have put certain parts that I consider
important in ALL CAPS. A note to you nonbelievers.  Try to put your belief
systems and judgements aside while reading this.  Then after finishing it let
your mind snap shut again.
Don Showen

The following is Copyrighted by Wendelle Stevens ALL RIGHTS RESERVED Reprinted
with permission. Reprinted from the book UFO ... Contact From the Pleiades:
Supplementry Investigation Report. Published in 1989. available from UFO PHOTO
ARCHIVES P.O. Box 17206 Tucson, Arizona 85710



INTRODUCTION

"Unidentified Flying Objects are a very serious subject which we must study
fully. We appeal to all viewers to send us details of any observations of
strange flying craft seen over the territories of the Soviet Union. This is a
serious challenge to Science, and we need the help of all Soviet citizens."

Dr. Felix Zigel, Moscow Aviation Institute, on TV, 10 November 1967

Ten years after my investigation of the phenomenal UFO contacts from the Pleiades
in Switzerland began,  (in the early part of September 1976),  I feel as
qualified as any to assess the validity and accuracy of what I discovered and
reported.

I  have marked scores of typographical errors in my master copy of my
Preliminary Report of Investigation published in 1982, and a couple of dates had
to be corrected,  and some phrases,  some paragraphs, and even a couple of
pages, had to be corrected, but I have found little that was incorrectly
reported then, and I find little now. That report was the culmination of a
series of reports updated annually since 1978. At the time of publication the
contacts were still going on and so there were some things that were not
included there because they were still developing. Also we chose to begin that
report with the beginning of Semjase's contacts with Mr. Meier,  although that
was not the first Earth contacts carried out by Semjase nor was it the first
contacts with extraterrestrial entities by Eduard Meier.

Once that published report was released we, and I personally, came under attack
constantly from every quarter and all levels. The most vicious put-downs came
from the UFO clubs  and organizations themselves, both official and unofficial,
which should have been the very ones to get in there and really get to the truth
of the matter. I never saw any of them there in 81 days altogether that I spent
living on the property or in the vicinity carrying out my own investigations. My
later associates collectively spent more than twice that amount of time and they
never saw any other serious researchers either.

May I assure you that I would never have spent the 2nd day, nor made any other
trip to investigate a hoax. I am not attracted by fantasy and science fiction,
and I abhor hoax and deliberate fraud. On the other hand, to attribute the
magnitude and scope of the exhibitions, mass  demonstrations,  physical evidence
and data as a fraud on my part is flattery indeed.

We do not seek, nor do I have any urge to persuade any of you to accept what I
offer here without question. We simply state what we found and what we believe
for those who are interested in knowing that much. You may accept what you
choose and reject any and all of this as you please. I personally accept nothing
without questioning it and knowing exactly why I do or do not believe, and I
recommend this to all.

We have been accused of being victimized by somebody else's fraud in this case,
and then passing it on in our reports. If that is the situation then the
perpetrators number in the scores, of different sources, many completely unknown
to all the others. Some trick, I would say, and clearly beyond the little Swiss
farmer. If that were the case, he has staged same sights we have seen, and same
phenomena we have observed and experienced, that go far beyond the special
effects capabilities of the biggest movie studios in the world -- and all with
no money, no resources, no known confederates, no technicians or aids of any
kind, and in a poor and simple rural area of Switzerland where everybody knows
what all the rest are doing.

That report aroused the ire and enmity of the whole UFO community, mainly
because such enmity was actively orchestrated by the better known UFO clubs
then, such as APRO, MUFON, ICUON and others, possibly through local jealously.
All you need do is read their bulletins to verify this. Several offered to take
control of the investigation for me if I would just turn over my notes and
contacts to them. Other free lancers came to me with the same offer. I could not
accept the offers from any, because what I was seeing was too big to be managed
on a part time basis by same club simultaneously distracted by many other
things. I took it to an intelligence contact who at first showed interest, and
then later (after checking forward) advised that they "already had it",and for
me  to  forget  it.  I  then  took it to a private investigative agency,
licensed in Arizona and Internationally, and persuaded them to join me in our
own investigation to see what we could discover for ourselves. One  result was
the  Preliminary  Investigation Report, which was not originally intended for
publication as may be easily seen.

It is also possible that somebody else, relying on the constant UFO club
jealousy and infighting, manipulated events  and  reactions to produce problems
designed to slow us down or to deter completely.

... Not only did we come under fire, but most of the other researchers who
helped us in any way were castigated and criticized to the extent that we were
forced to go underground in our research. ...

CHAPTER 1 Asket and the DALs My Preliminary Investigation Report on this case,
published in 1982, began with the commencement of the face-to-face contacts with
Semjase and her team of Pleiadians operating from a great mother-ship, and
Meier's photos of the Pleiadian ships. That was the case we were studying at the
time.

That, however, was not the beginning of Eduard Meier's contacts with
extraterrestrials nor was it the first time he had seen and photographed
unidentified flying objects in the skies of Earth. His first sightings of this
phenomena began when he was a small boy of 5 with his father when they lived in
Bulach on the German border. That happened on 2 June 1942. It was only a
sighting, but he knew then that this whole thing was different, though he was
unaware at that young age that he had accepted an "arrangement" before his
birth. His was a chosen destiny of contacts which was to give him no peace in
this life.

>From then on he could often see "traveling stars" when he looked up, mostly at
night but sometimes in daylight too. He distinguished these from the others
because these were sometimes larger and sometimes smaller, and these stars made
abrupt turns, flew zig-zag patterns, and they sometimes just stopped in space.
Remember there were no satellites in those days.

Then in late Autumn of the same year, Meier saw a bigger ball-shaped flying
object traveling at slow speed.

It slowed more and began to slowly descend. gently it came down, its metallic
spherical shape clearly visible. Then, all of a sudden, it just disappeared
without making any noise.

The sightings became more frequent until he began to hear a voice in his head
and saw pictures. In November that same year, shortly before his 6th birthday,
he saw a pear-shaped object  suddenly drop from the sky, and settle gently on
the meadow grass in a woods near their home town of Bulach. An old man took him
into the ship and high above Earth, then brought him back to the same meadow and
let him out. The ship then shot up vertically at high speed until out of sight.

More sightings and communications continued until his 7th birthday on 3 February
1944, when the voice became more personal and told him to work hard from now on
as he would be given knowledge in this manner. The speaker identified himself as
SFATH,  the old man who had taken him aboard the pear-shaped machine earlier.
Six months later, in the Summer of 1944, Sfath returned in the silver
pear-shaped flying object and picked him up again for a four hour session on his
destiny and that of his world in his lifetime. A helmet appliance with many wire
leads attached was used for this inculcation process. He was able to see and
hear overwhelming things and was imparted a great deal of knowledge and told of
events to come, much of which he did not understand at the time. Meier was
returned to the pick-up site and the ship disappeared straight up at high speed
until it was out of sight.

Only a few hours after that experience a new voice began to speak to him
telepathically. This one was young, strong, and full of energy. It was female
and told Meier he could call her ASKET, and that she would be his contact now.

Asket communicated with him regularly from then on, and imparted more phenomenal
knowledge, and then guided his destiny to give him certain experiences in the
next few years to temper him for what was to come. It was she who made it
possible for him to travel his world, and it was she who led him into and
through his trials and many tests to give him the experiences he would need.

Asket told Meier that her origin was in what she called the DAL Universe,
incredibly a counterpart Universe to this of our reality. She said that our
universe existed because of hers and hers because of ours. We were related in
some way because  the two separate Universes had a common  origin,  and that
each existed because of  the other and if one ceased to exist,  the other would
likewise cease to be. There were other universes involved also which further
complicated the situation. An oversimplification would be to consider one an
anti-matter counterpart of the other.

This concept is not entirely unheard of, and has been treated  extensively  in
science fiction. Even orthodox science is recently discovering anti-matter and
opposite realities. Fritjoff Capra discussed the scientific basis for these
opposing realities extensively in his TAO OF PHYSICS, and showed that matter
equations simply do not work out without  taking into account  the opposite or
anti-matter aspect. The Feinman diagrams used to explain particle reactions  in
high energy physics demonstrate this process well, and they are found to be
completely reversible.  When matter is theoretically annihilated in an
acceleration chamber, same of it is only changed into its opposite aspect and
disappears from our reality into that other. Balance is maintained by an
exchange of energy in the form of heat or light.

After a UFO experience many years ago, Anthony Seratites, a Dow Chemical
engineer, was suddenly awakened to a new concept of matter and energy, being
shown, way back then, that there is no ultimate particle in physics as it was
being taught, that what appears to be protons, electrons,  gluons,  muons,
quarks,  neutrinos,  etc., and all  their invisible to us anti-particles, are
nothing more than photon quanta organized in different ways. The photon quanta
are not visible until they become organized into something, and they can just as
easily become organized into an anti-something from our point of view. He
visualized a photon quanta as part of a wave. It had vector and curvature, curl,
or spin. He discovered that the vector could be reversed by simply inverting the
curve, or the curve could be reversed by turning it over at 90 degrees to the
other axis.  In either case, its accumulation into matter was the same but now
opposite or anti-matter.

Seratites' diagram of an electron alone had same 228 parts. He spent years
developing his concepts and diagramed many atoms in a book titled THE STRUCTURAL
NATURE OF MATTER, and then went on to diagram more atoms and same molecules  in
another volume called THE UNIVERSAL FIELD LAW and THE UNIVERSAL LAW OF CREATION
OF MASS/ ENERGY.  both by Anthony D.  Seratites. What he learned was that matter
can be instantly converted to anti-matter by  simply inverting the quanta, which
changes its direction of spin, and that they mutually repel each other and do
not seek to cancel out. The anti-matter world is no more rare than the matter
world, as they are one and the same  in different aspect.  There is as much
antimatter as there is matter and they balance.

Seratites is best known as the inventor of Seran-wrap,  the thinnest, lightest,
strongest, and most vapor resistant of all films up to that time, and it was a
product of his new ideas about chemistry coming out of his new physics. He may
someday be recognized as the father of the renaissance in physics.

He was not alone in these new concepts though. Wilbert B. Smith, B.A, M.A.,
former head of the Canadian Department of Transport's Project Magnet,
entertained similar ideas as he developed what he called his Quadrature Concept,
which was published after his death in 1962 under the title THE NW SCIENCE,
authored by him. He too found that there is no ultimate physical particle; that
all is the result of awareness within the creative consciousness. Simply
awareness in the Tempic Field of the Creative Consciousness produces vector and
curl. That vector and curl is equivalent to a photon quantum, which is the
result of awareness impinging on the Tempic Field of the All.  Simultaneous with
the action of vector and curl comes the reaction of vector and curl energies in
the opposite directions, resulting in opposite manifestation maintaining the
balance in the all. The ultimate result in the physical world is observed as
matter and antimatter. He also concluded that nothing more than awareness
impinging on the Tempic Field of the All Consciousness was the actual first
cause, and the origin of the photon  and  ultimately  matter. Matter is nothing
else than the final stages of  thought  manifest, with energy someplace in
between.

Wilbert B.  Smith became a UFO contactee in 1954 and carried on extensive
dialogues with the extraterrestrial friends visiting him.  It was from these
dialogues that he evolved his Ouadrature Concept to explain the then unknowns in
physics, and came up with ideas very similar to those of Seratites but expressed
in different terms, in which the anti-matter reality was the essential balancing
part.

Then in 1960, before Asket picked Meier up in Switzerland, a South African
electrician, Edward F. White, began to have contact with extraterrestrials who
told him they came from an anti-matter or counterpart universe. When they
learned to navigate the polarity barrier between the two universes,  they were
amazed to discover our life and existence, similar to theirs, in opposite
reality,  and over  time established contact across the barrier and learned to
navigate and explore their antimatter  counterpart--our phenomenal universe.
They also learned to communicate across the barrier and maintained contact with
the Earth man by electromagnetic means, which they carried on for over 25 years.
During that time, over 1,000 hours of verbal dialogue was recorded on audio tape
and preserved.  These  experiences are reported in a 305 page illustrated book
titled UFO CONTACT FROM PLANET KOLDAS, A Cosmic Dialogue, authored by Carl van
Vlierden.

But Eduard Meier knew nothing of this at the time of his contacts with the DALs
who claimed a counterpart universe origin. All he knew was that Asket was
telling him that her DAL Universe was the opposite of ours, and that her people
had learned to navigate what she called the "Time Barrier"  time in this sense
being the kind of vibrations or kind of reality in which they normally existed.
She explained that her native counterpart was much like ours, but that the
heavens and luminaries were all different, however they were of the same
cumulative mass and energy. Once they learned to safely cross the barrier
between  the  two  universes-which  co-exist in time and space--they learned to
navigate and explore ours as well as theirs and they learned much and constantly
transmitted information to their home System

The DALs discovered the Pleiadians before Earth and learned to get along with
and to work compatibly with them,  who were already freely traveling in space.
The DALs shared their technology with the Pleiadians which then allowed
creatures of our universe to visit the DAL Universe in Pleiadian ships.  The
DALs discovered Earth through the Pleiadians and their interests here. Sfath was
a Pleiadian who handed Meier over to Asket for development and preparation for a
future Pleiadian plan. The DALs had an active Earth project going on at that
time. Meier was picked back up in a Pleiadian mission in January 1975 with the
renewed overt contact with him some time after the last of his preparation by
Asket

We reported  those developments in the Preliminary Beport of Investigation.  In
that report we by-passed the earlier preparation by Asket in order to
concentrate on the Pleiadian contacts themselves, a step we have been criticized
for since.

It has now became necessary to retreat and fill in some of the  background
preceding  that  first meeting with Semjase in the meadow in Switzerland. Here
we are speaking only of  the contacts with the Pleiadians in this present
lifetime.

CHAPTER 2 Asket Influences Meier's Preparation


Upon establishing telepathic contact with Meier, Asket took over his education
and preparation where Sfath had left off. It was she who led him through a
series of adventures  designed to toughen him for the adversity to come. It was
she who led him through Africa and the experiences in the French Foreign Legion,
the Desert Caravans, the slavers, revolutionaries and bootleggers; into the
hands of the pirates of the Arabian Sea, and across the Indian Ocean as a sailor
with the freighters to the sub-continent of India. It was Asket who by subtle
influence guided Meier through most of the religions of Europe, Africa and Asia,
joining them one by one in turn in his own search for a belief system acceptable
to him.

Unknown to Meier consciously then was Asket's subsequent statements to him, also
later confirmed by Semjase in the Pleiadian contacts, that he was once an IHWH,
a Pleiadian expeditionary to Earth, with one of the several earlier occupations
of this planet by ancestors of the Pleiadians. He at that earlier time enjoyed
his superior status and the obedience of and exploitation of the primitive Earth
humans.

His activities at that earlier time brought him subsequently into Earth
incarnation as one of the Terrestrial primitives experiencing the oppressed side
of the exploitation, but in his soul he knew the other side as well, even in
those ancient days, and he inspired rebellion against the oppressors and a
movement toward awareness of The Creation as the underlying source of being for
all (within which even the IHWH had their limits).

He became a leader of this silent rebellion, and his name then is recognized
today as one of the prophets of the Old Testament. He incarnated again later as
another to continue the work, and even again after that, more than once,  for
the same purpose, including his present Mission , now an Earth man.

He was often guided in his activities, over the centuries. by those seeking to
help the Pleiadians correct their mistakes, which in present time took the form
of the DAL extradimensionals, and Asket in person.

This is why in Asket's preparation program (for this mission) he was led through
all of the world's great religions,  one after another,  to learn them
thoroughly, AND ALSO ANOTHER REASON WHY HE WAS LED AWAY FROM FORMAL EDUCATION AT
A YOUNG AGE -- TO REDUCE THE CONTAMINATION OF CONCEPTS BY THE ORTHODOX EARTH
LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE AND BELIEFS. He was severely tested, physically and mentally,
to toughen him for the trials of this mission.

He actually experienced most of the principal Earth religions today, from the
inside, all of which, according to his  information,  are descended from the
less than benevolent Pleiadian extraterrestrials of that ancient past.

This is one reason for Meier's harsh challenges to the fundamentalist beliefs,
much of which we have edited out of our version of the Pleiadian Contact Notes,
but which may be read in their original German language by those so interested.

We are pretty sure that this information will not be well received, because the
entrenched orthodox beliefs are still here, though now being exploited by Earth
men for  their own gain.  Knowing this and revealing it has become a great
danger to our contactee and many of those associated with him.

Because of these previous contacts with the DAL extradimensionals and his
awakened awareness, Eduard Meier was not entirely surprised when the contacts
with Semjase and her team - reformed IHWHs - began, although it came earlier
than expected.

This  is also another reason, and the real one, why these contacts could not be
expanded to include just any other Earth humans, or be transferred to somebody
else. There are however,  others,  like Eduard Meier, who are here doing similar
things for similar reasons, but their missions are equally impossible to
transfer to another.

Eduard Meier has been given adequate proof of the validity of all these things,
but he is not permitted to use  it  to  persuade  any  other  human  being
against his own will. Meier's primary instrument of validity is the collection
of certain photographs of the extraterrestrial spacecraft which will never be
duplicated. We may add here that there are photographs which have also been
prepared as an "escape",  if and when that should become necessary. WE ARE NOT
PERMITTED TO POINT THEM OUT AS  IT  VIOLATES  THE  FREEDOM  OF  CHOICE  RULE
WITHIN THE FREE WILL ASPECTS OF EACH INDIVIDUAL. IT IS FOR THIS SAME REASON THAT
ALL POSITIVE AND INDISPUTABLE PROOF HAS BEEN WITHHELD BY THE EXTRATERRESTRIALS
THEMSELVES, AND WHEN ANYTHING THAT MIGHT BECAME PROVABLE CAME INTO THE HANDS OF
MEIER, IT WAS TAKEN BY THE PLEIADIANS, THUS YOU ARE ALL ENTIRELY FREE TO CHOOSE
WITHOUT THE COERCIVE INFLUENCE OF POSITIVE EVIDENCE. THAT WAS ALSO THE REASON
BEHIND OUR INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE PLEIADIANS NOT TO TRY TO REBUT ANY KINDS OF
CHARGES MADE AGAINST THIS CASE BY ANTAGONISTS. THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THEIR
PREFERRED JUDGMENTS IN THEIR OWN FREE WILL. This may not be for them, and that
is OK. Meier also has freedom of choice in how he treats this whole thing. He is
not bound in any way and may get out any time by an act of will, but, they warn,
if he does, it is forever...a step that he hesitates to take because so much of
his past is bound up in this.

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The following is Copyrighted by Wendelle Stevens ALL RIGHTS RESERVED Reprinted
with permission. Reprinted from the book Message From the Pleiades:

available from
UFO PHOTO ARCHIVES
P.O. Box 17206
Tucson, Arizona 85710

Semjase-  239/ Earth humans still don't know very many things. 240/ But now we
have to interrupt our conversation, because my father has finished
his preparations for the great leap. 244/ And as I am already speaking of
such, then I want to ask you something:  In a few minutes, we will jump for
seven minutes into the "eternity", as you call it.  245/  The feelings and
sensations there are completely otherwise than in normal existence in material
life. 246/ For that reason it is also not possible for us to receive your
thoughts and feelings with proper concentration.   247/ In consequence of
which neither I nor my father, nor any of us, could later repeat for you your
feelings and thoughts, so that you could write them down.   248/ If you
nevertheless wish to do this, then there is a chance on a technical basis.

Meier-  Of course I am interested in remembering my feelings, but, am I not
able to do this myself?

Semjase-  249/ But surely...  250/ But you know that your own ability to
remember is not developed so highly that you can repeat word for word from
memory. 251/  That as well is the case for us, for which we need technical
assistance for true word repeats.

Meier-  I understand.  What do you suggest then?  Naturally  I am interested
in writing everything in detail.

Semjase-  252/  That's not difficult.   253/  The booths, which you can see
there, beside the screens, are equipped with all necessary means,  to  store
up feelings and thoughts.(15) 254/  The thought impulses received are stored
in a special computer and can later, as may be desired, be repeated word for
word from it.  255/  The helmet, shapable and adaptable in size, which you see
there, is equipped with very fine sondes and is as well covered by a special,
fine-meshed net of sondes which pick up every kind of energy and transforms it
into impulses which are then transmitted to the computer where they are
registered and stored.   256/  The energy of thoughts and feelings is measured
in very high values and can be  received only through those instruments.  257/
The energies of feelings and thoughts exist only in very high frequency
fields, or hyper-frequencies.   258/ To now be able to register your thoughts
and feelings, it is necessary that you place yourself into the chair and lay
the head under the helmet cap, which then will adapt itself automatically to
your head.

Meier-  That's all I have to do?

Semjase-  259/ No, that is not all.   260/ But now place yourself in the
booth. 261/  The great journey starts in just 23 seconds.

Meier-  At your service, Miss General.

(As Semjase explained to me, I quickly sit down inside one of the three
booths, in the extremely comfortable chair.  As soon as I have seated myself,
the peculiar helmet moves over my head and sinks down silently.   It is big
enough that it closes around my whole head, and only leaves my face open, thus
I can see and watch everything.  But the helmet is not touching my head; only
lying close around it, keeping about one and a half centimeters distance to
the skull, as I can see when I place a forefinger between the helmet and the
head. Now I am tense and expectant, for I wonder what is going to happen.
Ptaah and Semjase manipulate the apparatus, and now I can see again how the
fantastic heavens and stars change.   In a fraction of a second they are
nothing more than a whitish milky mass, a shining mass, as I have already seen
in the other hyper-leaps.   But now suddenly as well, this milky whitish
shining is gone and there is darkness. But now what is this? Suddenly all is
merging into a golden color, and now everything is like silver. But - my dear
this glistening light, this beaming shining splendor! Everything is merged
into glistening light - only the glistening light.   It is stronger than all
the suns of the Universe... Dear, oh dear, this glistening light, and it does
not hurt the eyes!  Dear, this must be eternity, the glistening light of the
eternal... but see,  there is nothing besides the eternity; man alive, how
marvelous!  Marvelous?  Man alive, that is itself marvelous.   Eternity and
marvelousness are one and the same.  Only why do I separate it?  Why do I put
the eternity into terms of time?  Time does not exist, and the eternity is
marvelous.   Man,  just what is this?  This tranquility,  this peace -- what
is it?   How could I have achieved this?   Love, oh that deep all encompassing
love. Nothing is there, but LOVE: wonderful, marvelous.  Oh yes, I am, but I
am not. Everything is so deep, and full of love. Of course, I am eternity, and
I am inside of eternity.  How could I ever forget this?  Oh yes, I am a human
being, how can I... why do I forget that?  I am only a guest in eternity - and
those loving voices, calling for me, from where is it coming?  I can see
nothing, only the glistening light, comforting.   Who is calling me?  I see
nothing; man alive, I am nothing any more.  I can't see myself.  I a eternity,
in the eternity.  Oh, how is that, but I don't see with my eyes, still I see
everything.  And I am not listening with my ears, yet I hear everything.  Yes,
the love, how powerful it is, how immense, infinite and wonderful.  Everything
is love and splendor; why doesn't the human being understand this? ... The
calling comes out of the light.  Is it the call of eternity?   Oh how hard it
is... to not think that I am only a guest in eternity, that I am only a human
being.  How painful it is, this being a human.  I do no more want to be. I
want to remain here as eternity inside of eternity... this deep.  Yes, I want
to stay here.  Never again do I want to return.   Here is the existence, the
real existence... How can I feel strange having to return to a material world?
I belong here................................................. Pain, why are
you shaking me?  What is it?

Semjase-  262/ Do you still not understand?

Meier          I - - - Oh yes, of course! - - - Pitiful - very much  pitiful -
why have you brought me back here?

Semjase-  263/ You want to joke, but we have all been inside the timelessness,
and would all like to stay there.  264/ But we are not ready to stay, because
we have to absolve the way of evolution step-by-step - as you also must do,
dear friend. 265/ I know quite well, how painfully your heart aches now, as we
all have experienced the same thing.  266/ But we have to adjust ourselves for
that and do know, that under no circumstances or conditions are we allowed or
able to remain, until we have reached that level of consciousness.  267/ I do
regret very much that you feel disturbed inside, as I can see it on your face.
268/ But you will overcome it, because you can think about it realistically.
269/ For that reason we also took responsibility for this equipment...

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Meier-  Yes.  Okay, I thought so.  But what about the pretensions then, that
humans have received messages from Angels or from God, etc., by inspirations?

Ptaah 207/ In a few cases, such inspirations are true, but they never  contain
religious information. 208/ Religions exist solely on your own Earth.  They do
not exist anywhere else in the Universe. 211/ Same space-traveling people have
brought Earth religions to other planets but only for the purpose of studying
them.

Meier-  Those are strong words.  We are told on Earth, especially  by  the
Christians,  that  Jesus Christ  is  the actual master and ruler of all the
worlds in the Universe. He is regarded as a God incarnate and is seen as equal
to The Creation itself.  What can you say about this?

Ptaah  214/ We know these delusions of your world, but consider if it were
true,  which is impossible, then in all probability not the human beings of
Earth would be the race to whom would be allocated the task of publishing a
religion. 216/ As, for many millenniums on many worlds of the Universe, the
Earth human represents the most materialistic creature development, deficient
in spiritual evolution for the run of millenniums.  217/ It is a known fact on
many worlds, that the Earth human being defies  (real)  spiritual growth and
develops  himself only within gross materialism. It would really be a paradox
of supreme magnitude if such an one, among those available, were chosen for
such universal destiny (and he can not even leave his planet or system).  218/
But in spite of this, the Earth humans abrogates to himself the immeasurable
arrogance of this presumption while he revels in his materialistic mania of
which we know no equal.  219/  This, precisely, is a real danger, for as soon
as the Earth human becomes master of the technologies for space-drive and
travels to strange worlds, and brings them by power of his weapons or lies or
deceit under his control, so also will he include in his doing, the crazy
spread of his religion to his conquests,  and the existing universal harmony
will be destroyed.   221/  This means that the still guaranteed peace would be
destroyed by your religions and degenerate to murderous wars and great
destruction.(16) 222/ And just to prevent this occurrence is a great and
difficult mission for spiritually developed space-traveling forms of life...